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  • 06-29-2009 04:38 PM

    • zhiva
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    The cost having a scooter

    Do u guys know how much is the cost owning a scooter? I really want to buy one but need to calculate all the cost, to avoid any surprises.

    I am planning to buy a new Vespa, maybe GTS250... I think it cost around 9500 - 10000$ on road.

    I want to know additional cost, such as registration cost, third party (compulsary), yearly service, or even full insurance (if it is recommended).

    Your inputs are appreciated :)

     

    newbie is in love with Vespa
  • 06-29-2009 08:20 PM In reply to

    Re: The cost having a scooter

    It will help if you let people know what state or territory you live in Smile

  • 06-29-2009 10:23 PM In reply to

    • petegailey
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    Re: The cost having a scooter

    I added up the cost of riding a 125cc Daelim for 15 months or 16000ks on another thread.

    "Just got the NS125 back from its 16,000k service and its still going really well. Had to replace the belt, I'd bought one six months ago for $45 just in case, oil and oil filter but all in all the Daelim is in good shape. And cheap to run (for a scooter) so I decided to do the maths.

     

    Original purchase price on road                                                             $3,600

    Servicing 6 times over 15 months                                                          $1,150

    3 rear tyres (2 due to punctures 1 due to wear)                                     $   230

    I drive belt                                                                                               $    45

    Rego, green slip til March 2010                                                             $   300

    Comprehensive insurance X 2                                                               $   450

    About  650 ltrs of fuel                                                                             $   780

    Total for 15 months riding and registered and insured til Mar 2010       $6,555

    Traded in for                                                                                           $1,000

    Total Costs                                                                                              $5,555

     

    I reckon thats  16,000ks of  hard riding. Works out at about $0.35 / kilometre"

    Could do the same for a Vespa GTS250 sometime. 

     

     

    Daelim NS 125: Mighty 1st scoot from Korea that punched way above its weight. Sold
    Vespa GTS 250: Modern Retro brilliance. I'll ride it til it dies.Traded in on a maxi.
    Suzuki DR650: "That Thing" Excellent Single 650 thumper chook chaser that was too tall. Sold
    Yamaha T Max: Best Maxi out there and serious canyon racer. Sold
    Triumph Bonneville: Modern Retro brilliance with the sweetest parallel twin.
    BMW F800R: The Naked Hun. Great intro into sports bikes.
    Gilera Runner FXR 180: 2 stroke scooter missile from Piaggio.
    Gilera Nexus 500. Sexy like red Italian stilettos.
    Yamaha RZ250RR: Retro Japanese 2 stroke racer.
  • 06-29-2009 10:25 PM In reply to

    Re: The cost having a scooter

    Factor in the cost of some decent gear too. Helmet, gloves and jacket at minimum. I'd also add in pants, riding boots and some kind of weather protection. You can often get this stuff as part of a package deal. Try to get your scooter from a store that has a wide range of gear. But do a little research first. As impatient as you might be to get your hands on your new scooter Big Smile, it really helps to know what else you need and what's out there. That way you'll minimise the chances of getting stuck with gear you'll have to replace a few months down the track, which is what I'm finding with some of my bits and pieces at the moment. I think a good store can also be a big help.

    Will you park outside? You may also want a cover. I know mine has been invaluable.

    Riding a red HD200 when I'm not riding a bicycle.
  • 06-30-2009 12:29 PM In reply to

    • zhiva
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    Re: The cost having a scooter

    thank you!!

    I live in Sydney.

    Currently riding bicycle to train st evey morning >.< so I am planning to have scooter to ride to work.

    Anyway, hopefully I'll have all my budget worked out.

    newbie is in love with Vespa
  • 07-02-2009 06:36 PM In reply to

    Re: The cost having a scooter

    It's cheaper than using our public transport! And that's even before you start putting monetary value on the time you waste in daily commute.

  • 07-02-2009 06:44 PM In reply to

    Re: The cost having a scooter

    zhiva how much a week are you spending on public transport each week then you can do some sums

  • 07-02-2009 10:08 PM In reply to

    • zhiva
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    Re: The cost having a scooter

    I spend $38 a week, 1 year I worked 48 weeks (that is 52 less 4 weeks annual leave) so thats 1824$ a year

    Full insurance aroundd 450$, rego & CTP maybe $280, fuel maybe $10 a week (55km approx daily x 5 days), servicing ... I dunno... maybe $600 per year?

    lol it pretty much similar to my train ticket... plus the initial scooter's price...

    Well, I know it is more convinient riding scoot than train, and especially save time in waiting. Not saying I hate the train, man, I like train much better than buses.

    newbie is in love with Vespa
  • 07-02-2009 10:31 PM In reply to

    • INMA
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    Re: The cost having a scooter

    Second hand Bee Wee $1400, Rego $350, comprehensive insurance $125, brake pads $12, Petrol $1250, oil $125, Tyre $80, fun priceless.

    All up 10,000km (numbers are for first year) $3342.  I figure I save that on car servicing and car petrol in the year. 

    Follow on years will be about $2000 per year based on 10,000km, 20c per km.  I actually do between 12,000 and 15,000km at the moment.

    2001 Yamaha Zuma, DR Evo 68 cylinder, Leo Vince TT derestricted, Delorto 17.5 (#98 jet), standard aircleaner, RMS fan, Race CDI, Standard oiler and premix @ 75:1 Shell SX2, Doppler SR3 variator, RMS clutch, RMS R rear shock absorber and Pirelli SL26 tyres.
  • 07-03-2009 12:52 PM In reply to

    • zhiva
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    Re: The cost having a scooter

     

    I asked for a full insurance quote from NRMA, guess what it will cost me..... I live in Sydney West, and omg its 811.68$$!!! it is so similar with car insurance....

    do u guys know who else is doing comprehensive insurance for scooter?

    newbie is in love with Vespa
  • 07-03-2009 01:54 PM In reply to

    • petegailey
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    Re: The cost having a scooter

    I was paying $190 for greenslip and $220 for comprehensive insurance NRMA Thats for replacement value of $4000- $500 basic excess. You must be young.
    Daelim NS 125: Mighty 1st scoot from Korea that punched way above its weight. Sold
    Vespa GTS 250: Modern Retro brilliance. I'll ride it til it dies.Traded in on a maxi.
    Suzuki DR650: "That Thing" Excellent Single 650 thumper chook chaser that was too tall. Sold
    Yamaha T Max: Best Maxi out there and serious canyon racer. Sold
    Triumph Bonneville: Modern Retro brilliance with the sweetest parallel twin.
    BMW F800R: The Naked Hun. Great intro into sports bikes.
    Gilera Runner FXR 180: 2 stroke scooter missile from Piaggio.
    Gilera Nexus 500. Sexy like red Italian stilettos.
    Yamaha RZ250RR: Retro Japanese 2 stroke racer.
  • 07-03-2009 07:19 PM In reply to

    Re: The cost having a scooter

     You might need to count on a few train trips when the weather is so yuck that you don't want to scoot, and the cost of the liscence courses and the liscence.  But how much is the fun worth?

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  • 07-04-2009 03:14 AM In reply to

    Re: The cost having a scooter

    I have had cars for most of the last 13 years and I have never had a new or flash car. I expect 1 year for every $1,000 dollars I pay for a car. Yep I am a cheap b#stard, do most of my own maintenance, buy second parts when appropriate. last car I had cost me $800 ran on gas, and lasted me two years, I put some tyres on it. It still runs fine, leaks most fluids. I could fix it up but couldn't be stuffed. As a fixer upper it's still worth $400 and a little work makes it safe and roadworthy.

    People are really ripped off by servicing, with CDI there is no timing to adjust, with fuel injection and sensors, there is no carby to tune. Change the oil and plug, clean or change the filters and it's done. Scooters are labour intensive because of all the bodywork to remove, but there is bugger all mechanical work to do. Same with modern cars. Scooters have the added work of the CVT which needs work at least every 20,000 Ks.

    No sympathy for those whose only skill is their work and need to call a "guy" to mow the lawn and can't cook a meal. People join a auto club cause they cannot change a flat tyre. Call a landscaper cause they can't operate a shovel.

    If you buy a maxi scoot and pay through the nose for services you could probably run a car for your family for the same price.

    I don't claim to have all the skills for this techno world.

    We live in a world where slave our @rses off for a week to pay for a service because all specialise only in what we do.

    Thankfully it has come to the point where if you can do stuff yourself you barely need to work for a living.

    In short, it can cost you heaps, or it can be very cheap if you are willing to learn to do stuff yourself push the limits and make educated judgements.

    signed whinging old b@stard

    Do more with less and do it yourself!!! It aint rocket science!!!!

    Do more with less Cygnus125 then 250Virago
    Get outa town the wheels wont stop
    alias Hardly Viragoson
  • 07-04-2009 09:42 AM In reply to

    • petegailey
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    Re: The cost having a scooter

     Actually scootering can get quite expensive when it turns into an obsession. There are heaps of hidden costs.There is the inital scooter outlays and servicing as previously documented, and the gear, Ive got 4 helmets, four coats, boots, draggn jeans and polyester riding pants, 3 sets of gloves. Then here are the licence training costs as previously pointed out and RTA transfer costs,and the odd fine. And there is the second scooter that you buy when you want a bigger and better beast, and the bling and extras like screens,seat cushions and heated grips etc that you realise are a must have on your new scoot, and the cost of keeping the near obsolete car registered and sitting in the carport, and then there are the costs on your relationship as you ride about the counrtyside all weekend, the list goes on.

    No. Scootering's not cheap but as far as obsessions go the amount of grins and enjoyment it gives are priceless.Its Therapy really and in that frame its money well spent.

    Daelim NS 125: Mighty 1st scoot from Korea that punched way above its weight. Sold
    Vespa GTS 250: Modern Retro brilliance. I'll ride it til it dies.Traded in on a maxi.
    Suzuki DR650: "That Thing" Excellent Single 650 thumper chook chaser that was too tall. Sold
    Yamaha T Max: Best Maxi out there and serious canyon racer. Sold
    Triumph Bonneville: Modern Retro brilliance with the sweetest parallel twin.
    BMW F800R: The Naked Hun. Great intro into sports bikes.
    Gilera Runner FXR 180: 2 stroke scooter missile from Piaggio.
    Gilera Nexus 500. Sexy like red Italian stilettos.
    Yamaha RZ250RR: Retro Japanese 2 stroke racer.
  • 07-04-2009 11:06 AM In reply to

    Re: The cost having a scooter

     I couldn't agree more with the 'whinging old b@stard' and his comments above. If you can find a friend who does stuff like that themselves and buy them a (insert relevant gift here) as payment for doing the job with you once, then you never have to pay again. I am a teacher now, but I did a mechanic apprenticeship ages ago and I can safely tell you that what you are paying for in labour (and the extra added to parts prices) is the special knowledge that the mechanic has - which is really the same as the special skills & knowledge a teacher or lawyer... has.

    However, just as in the case of the teacher, much of what the mechanic does is quite simple and basic so you could do it yourself. If you search youtube for 'scooter oil change'  or something similar, you will find many videos of the job being done - you just have to take the plunge and work out which is the oil drain bolt on your particular model, and buy some oil and a filter from a dealer or even search the net for one.

    You may find a forum about your scoot in particular like  'burgmanusa' that has info on suzuki burgman scoots and other suzukis.

     

    Doing it yourself empowers you, it makes you less reliant on the corporate world, keeps money in your pocket..... (I may be a raving socialist)

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