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  • 12-03-2011 06:17 PM In reply to

    • arif
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    Re: Life to the T MAX!

    Thanks Pete.

    Yamaha dealser were giving quotes in the $900 area. Scooter Mondo in Annandale did it for me for $600. I have a feeling the job was harder than they expected though so they may want more now. They are great blokes though and now know what a 20000km service on a Tmax involves. just give them a call and they can let you know what they can do.

    Arif

     

     

  • 12-16-2011 08:23 PM In reply to

    Re: Life to the T MAX!

    arif:
    my question is can iuse this oil in the Tmax.

     

    I had a look at the Hi-Tec oil website and could not find much about this oil - nothing under the MSDS section.

    However the Tmax like the Burgman 650 (and almost every motorcycle) has a wet multi-plate clutch. Just that the Tmax and Burger use weights and centrifical force to engage rather than a clutch lever. The clutch shares the oil with the engine (just like most motorcycles - apart from some Ducati's). Oil and clutch's seem to be wrong - however the oil does do several things. For one it cools the clutch plates, dampens the action making for smoother engagements, keeps it clean with clutch material being carried away by the oil and hopefully filtered out. Most Jap bike makers specify oil that meets a specification called Jaso MA. This oil is tested to be approved for use in wet clutch equiped engines. However practically all car engine oils are not tested to the MA standard. But that does not mean they don't met the standard just not tested by the Jaso organisation which then issues an approval to the oil maker. It's just that oil makers don't seek approval for their mainstream car oils.

    What you don't wont is oil that has been made to suit low friction applications - this oil may cause the clutch to slip.

    Have a look at this website for more info - http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Oils1.html

    Make up your own mind - but I use similar oils in my machines and have had no issues.

    Life without a Tmax is possible, but would almost be useless…
  • 12-18-2011 08:17 AM In reply to

    • arif
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    Re: Life to the T MAX!

    Thanks White Fang - i will buy the oil you recommended to Pete previously from now on but just wanted to see if i could use this as i already have it.

  • 01-15-2012 12:00 PM In reply to

    • petegailey
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    Re: Life to the T MAX!

    Just got my Tmax back from its 20,000k service. One of the problems with the Tmax is finding a good workshop that knows the scooter.  As far as I can figure there are no Tmax specialists in Sydney so I took it to a big bike shop which has connections to Yamaha but in the end wasn't really happy with the bang I got for my buck.

    The first problem is spending $100/hr for someone to remove the fairing which has to be done to get anywhere on the Tmax. Im thinking I should have removed it myself and taken the scooter up naked. The second problem is that they didn't seem to follow the service schedule set out in the manual. I got a call from the workshop saying that the belt was fine and that they didnt need to replace it. This was the main reason that Id sent it to the workshop as I didn't have the variator tool to attempt the job myself. They did replace the three air filters and put the Dr Pulley sliders that I had bought into the variator. That alone cost $200. The rest was just a normal service. Ive also had an intermittant miss in the Tmax for some time and was hoping that they could fix it but they said that they couldn't find the problem. When I suggested that it might have gone when they changed the plugs the guy said they didn't change the plugs. I guess I can do it myself but I need to pull the fairing off to get to the plugs. The whole debarcle put me back $800. Typical but frustrating.

    I wish there was a workshop that knew what they're doing with the Tmax. If you know of a savvy Tmax mechanic please let me know! Either that or bite the bullet, buy the variator tool and go in myself.

    As a side note the Dr Pulley sliders seem to have gotton rid of the lag in the Tmax's acceleration off the lights which is a small consolation. I need to take it for a decent ride to really tell.


    Daelim NS 125: Mighty 1st scoot from Korea that punched way above its weight. Sold
    Vespa GTS 250: Modern Retro brilliance. I'll ride it til it dies.Traded in on a maxi.
    Suzuki DR650: "That Thing" Excellent Single 650 thumper chook chaser that was too tall. Sold
    Yamaha T Max: Best Maxi out there and serious canyon racer. Sold
    Triumph Bonneville: Modern Retro brilliance with the sweetest parallel twin.
    BMW F800R: The Naked Hun. Great intro into sports bikes.
    Gilera Runner FXR 180: 2 stroke scooter missile from Piaggio.
    Gilera Nexus 500. Sexy like red Italian stilettos.
    Yamaha RZ250RR: Retro Japanese 2 stroke racer.
  • 01-15-2012 02:01 PM In reply to

    Re: Life to the T MAX!

     Sad $800 s.h.i.t Pete that would have bought a compressor rattle gun & toque wrench plus all the other tools needed to DIY . Then you would have all the tools for next time with a fleet of 4 machines wouldn't matter if ones off the road for a couple of days .  Must get expensive using service agents  all the time especially when they don't do all of the things you ask  Smile

    Si ‘Thi’ later
  • 01-15-2012 08:10 PM In reply to

    • petegailey
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    Re: Life to the T MAX!

    pyrah:

     Sad $800 s.h.i.t Pete that would have bought a compressor rattle gun & toque wrench plus all the other tools needed to DIY . Then you would have all the tools for next time with a fleet of 4 machines wouldn't matter if ones off the road for a couple of days .  Must get expensive using service agents  all the time especially when they don't do all of the things you ask  Smile

    Yeah I know! Its a real problem when you've got a fleet of scooters/bikes. I normally don't complain about it, just lie back and think of England but I need to bite the bullet and learn to do the maintainence myself, especially now that all my machines are out of warranty. I took it for a 200k run this afternoon up to Woy Woy and back and I have to say the Tmax ran well despite the storms and heavy rain and Im not so pissed off. No sign of the miss and the Dr Pulley sliders have given it much more agressive torque. I should have fitted them ages ago. The Tmax really is the ace of scooters.

     


    Daelim NS 125: Mighty 1st scoot from Korea that punched way above its weight. Sold
    Vespa GTS 250: Modern Retro brilliance. I'll ride it til it dies.Traded in on a maxi.
    Suzuki DR650: "That Thing" Excellent Single 650 thumper chook chaser that was too tall. Sold
    Yamaha T Max: Best Maxi out there and serious canyon racer. Sold
    Triumph Bonneville: Modern Retro brilliance with the sweetest parallel twin.
    BMW F800R: The Naked Hun. Great intro into sports bikes.
    Gilera Runner FXR 180: 2 stroke scooter missile from Piaggio.
    Gilera Nexus 500. Sexy like red Italian stilettos.
    Yamaha RZ250RR: Retro Japanese 2 stroke racer.
  • 01-15-2012 11:51 PM In reply to

    • bradr
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    Re: Life to the T MAX!

    petegailey:
    One of the problems with the Tmax is finding a good workshop that knows the scooter
     

    Glen Henry Motorcycles Nowra -- [yamaha dealer] is good with them , Sharons auntie takes her T Max there & has no probs , also i think Graham (who came with us when we lunched at ''chats'' at Robbo takes his 600 Silverwing there , a distance to travel but i guess if you don't get a better offer , although i'm pretty sure you can re-belt without a variator tool , the rest of course is pretty simple once you gets its cloths off .

    Red ones always go faster but blue ones go pretty quick , but now blue ones are the way to go😄
  • 01-16-2012 06:28 AM In reply to

    • petegailey
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    Re: Life to the T MAX!

    bradr:
    Glen Henry Motorcycles Nowra -- [yamaha dealer] is good with them
    LOL Thats where it came from originally. There is a youtube video where a french guy shows how to do the belt.

    http://youtu.be/apPOdPSOcyU

    Daelim NS 125: Mighty 1st scoot from Korea that punched way above its weight. Sold
    Vespa GTS 250: Modern Retro brilliance. I'll ride it til it dies.Traded in on a maxi.
    Suzuki DR650: "That Thing" Excellent Single 650 thumper chook chaser that was too tall. Sold
    Yamaha T Max: Best Maxi out there and serious canyon racer. Sold
    Triumph Bonneville: Modern Retro brilliance with the sweetest parallel twin.
    BMW F800R: The Naked Hun. Great intro into sports bikes.
    Gilera Runner FXR 180: 2 stroke scooter missile from Piaggio.
    Gilera Nexus 500. Sexy like red Italian stilettos.
    Yamaha RZ250RR: Retro Japanese 2 stroke racer.
  • 01-18-2012 02:05 PM In reply to

    • petegailey
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    Re: Life to the T MAX!

    Ok all you engineers and tool makers. I need to bite the bullet and get a variator tool made. These versions are lifted from the Tmax site in the US.

    http://majestyusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5085

    Is it possible and what measurements do I need?

     Version 1

     

    Version 2

     

    Version 3

     

    Daelim NS 125: Mighty 1st scoot from Korea that punched way above its weight. Sold
    Vespa GTS 250: Modern Retro brilliance. I'll ride it til it dies.Traded in on a maxi.
    Suzuki DR650: "That Thing" Excellent Single 650 thumper chook chaser that was too tall. Sold
    Yamaha T Max: Best Maxi out there and serious canyon racer. Sold
    Triumph Bonneville: Modern Retro brilliance with the sweetest parallel twin.
    BMW F800R: The Naked Hun. Great intro into sports bikes.
    Gilera Runner FXR 180: 2 stroke scooter missile from Piaggio.
    Gilera Nexus 500. Sexy like red Italian stilettos.
    Yamaha RZ250RR: Retro Japanese 2 stroke racer.
  • 01-18-2012 02:17 PM In reply to

    Re: Life to the T MAX!

    Si ‘Thi’ later
  • 01-20-2012 09:21 AM In reply to

    • petegailey
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    Re: Life to the T MAX!

    From the US forum

    I made a tool like that using what I believe is called a thick exhaust flange
    (1 3/4 universal). It is harder to find the 1 3/4 size because not to many cars use that small of a pipe. The place down the block from me just found it on his self and gave it to me. No box or part number! :(

    I had the flange welded to an old VW tool that I used for my 99 Passat.


    I installed 2 M8 bolts and adjusted the distance to like 74 mm (bolt center to bolt center). M8 bolts are good for the variator (primary sheave) and M6 bolts are needed to work on the secondary sheave.


    http://majestyusa.com/gallery/v/2old2ro ... 6.JPG.html

    http://majestyusa.com/gallery/v/2old2ro ... 7.JPG.html

    Daelim NS 125: Mighty 1st scoot from Korea that punched way above its weight. Sold
    Vespa GTS 250: Modern Retro brilliance. I'll ride it til it dies.Traded in on a maxi.
    Suzuki DR650: "That Thing" Excellent Single 650 thumper chook chaser that was too tall. Sold
    Yamaha T Max: Best Maxi out there and serious canyon racer. Sold
    Triumph Bonneville: Modern Retro brilliance with the sweetest parallel twin.
    BMW F800R: The Naked Hun. Great intro into sports bikes.
    Gilera Runner FXR 180: 2 stroke scooter missile from Piaggio.
    Gilera Nexus 500. Sexy like red Italian stilettos.
    Yamaha RZ250RR: Retro Japanese 2 stroke racer.
  • 01-20-2012 12:54 PM In reply to

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  • 01-20-2012 08:57 PM In reply to

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     LOL guess not required now

    Si ‘Thi’ later
  • 01-20-2012 09:31 PM In reply to

    • miketl
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    Re: Life to the T MAX!

    You old "dog". Like the colour and that big grin says it all. Is it the 800cc version?

    Riding an 08 Vespa PX 200, and a 2012 Harley Sportster 883 Superlow
    previously big red Audrey an Aprilia Scarabeo 500ie, an Aprilia Scarabeo 200, and originally a Suzuki F50 Step-through
  • 01-20-2012 11:11 PM In reply to

    • MerrilyW
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    Re: Life to the T MAX!

    Now that is very gorgeous Pete! ...when will you come and introduce her to our girls :)

    Proud owner of Vespa GTS250ie - Ferrari Red..or some colour like that :-) with a BMW cool bike on the side...and a custom built Repsol Honda PCX finishes the stable.
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