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Scooters - illusion of choice?

Last post 05-18-2011 06:08 PM by pyrah. 28 replies.
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  • 05-08-2011 09:49 PM In reply to

    • phiz
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    Re: Scooters - illusion of choice?

    I was quoted 550 for the 10k service on my vs125, and thats having a service also at 1k, 3.5 and 7.5

     

    So as you've pointed out, avoiding short service intervals is vital if you're not servicing it yourself.

     

    The rego classes were changed last year, much to much outrage from the two wheeled community. I attended the rally against it but fell on deaf ears. The $hit keneally spouted as a response was a total joke, clearly didn't know what she was on about contradicting herself left right and centre. Perhaps with the new government there might be an opportunity to raise the subject again..

     

    Anyway, back to reality. Best bet is finding a 200 that really is 200. IMO tell her to deal with manual and get a yamaha scorpio, 225cc

    vs125 / 1000
  • 05-08-2011 11:33 PM In reply to

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     Yamaha Scorpio is not for sale new anymore

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  • 05-09-2011 07:57 AM In reply to

    • colind
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    Re: Scooters - illusion of choice?

    Alreayd onto to that one! She's almost agreed to at least learn on a manual and take it from there. There are a couple of 230 soft trail bikes with low seat that would do her fine, assuming she gets that far.

  • 05-09-2011 09:21 AM In reply to

    Re: Scooters - illusion of choice?

     Honda SL230 Yes

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  • 05-09-2011 10:26 AM In reply to

    • wleung
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    Re: Scooters - illusion of choice?

    I was sorta looking into this when i was looking for my next bike....

    In terms of Scooters, the one I would be most happy with whilst settling under the 225cc limit would be the Vespa GT200. It's actually a 198cc engine and gave a similar output power (20bhp) to my first bike -> the CB250. It was more than enough power for commuting (I owned a 10bhp scooter before, and that was enough for commuting with 80km/h zones :D).

    In terms of Bikes, I heard the ScorpioZ was a bit funny, where older models were under 225cc, and newer models were over 225cc? Don't quote me on it though. I also took interest in the Honda CTX200, as it was an offroad bike that was road legal. But it was past my budget as a new bike.

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    Exs: CB250, GS500, DL650, Espresso 150, Triumph Street Triple, ZZR250, CB900F Hornet
    Current: CBR125R / Piaggio Fly 150 3V
  • 05-09-2011 10:48 AM In reply to

    • colind
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    Re: Scooters - illusion of choice?

    Hi there Wilson, it seems like quite a few riders in NSW would be asking this question when they see the big difference in CTP. Perhaps some enterprising tuners could come up with kits for 250s - it wouldn't be hard to lose 25cc! (though riders have always wanted to go the other way in the past).

    Do you know the service intervals on the GT200?

    My first bike was a CB250 as well. Did 800 km of commuting every week on that little sucker. Actually they are not "little" - they are as heavy as a modern 750. With the power of a modern 125. Not a great combination. Those were the "good old days", apparently.

  • 05-09-2011 01:35 PM In reply to

    • wleung
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    Re: Scooters - illusion of choice?

    colind:
    Do you know the service intervals on the GT200?

    I'm sure some people here can give you a definite answer. Off the top of my head I recall it to be similar to a motorbike -> so 6000kms? (this is basically the oil change period).

    colind:
    they are as heavy as a modern 750. With the power of a modern 125.

    Aww, I'd give the CB250 a little more credit -> power of a modern 200cc :D.

    That said, you have to be careful too as scooters can be quite varied with their kerb mass.

    The Espresso 150 was quite light at about 120kg, and I think the LX125/150 is also quite light. When you get something a little more fancy, e.g. scarabeo 200, they jump to about 170kg. I think the CB250 was about 150kg? It plays around with the power/weight a bit.

    Wilson

    Exs: CB250, GS500, DL650, Espresso 150, Triumph Street Triple, ZZR250, CB900F Hornet
    Current: CBR125R / Piaggio Fly 150 3V
  • 05-09-2011 03:59 PM In reply to

    • allen
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    Re: Scooters - illusion of choice?

    wleung:
    > so 6000kms?

    Yes I think this is pretty much correct, around every 5-6 I think.

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  • 05-09-2011 07:39 PM In reply to

    • colind
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    Re: Scooters - illusion of choice?

    Ok I'm exaggerating about the CB250 - it wasn't that bad. I just checked it was 178 kg and 20 kw. Apparently the G6 that I had was supposed to be good for 141 kmh but the best I did was 131 - flat on the tank, with a 3 km run :(

  • 05-09-2011 08:05 PM In reply to

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    Idea  CB250 café racer Big Smile

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  • 05-09-2011 08:15 PM In reply to

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    my cods ache just looking at that Indifferent

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  • 05-18-2011 01:46 PM In reply to

    • wleung
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    Re: Scooters - illusion of choice?

    Saw the PGO 220i announced on the home page.

    Perfect scooter to stay under the 225cc limit for CTP in NSW :D.

    Wilson

    Exs: CB250, GS500, DL650, Espresso 150, Triumph Street Triple, ZZR250, CB900F Hornet
    Current: CBR125R / Piaggio Fly 150 3V
  • 05-18-2011 02:18 PM In reply to

    Re: Scooters - illusion of choice?

    colind:
    My first bike was a CB250 as well. Did 800 km of commuting every week on that little sucker. Actually they are not "little" - they are as heavy as a modern 750. With the power of a modern 125.

    Hey, don't you talk trash about CB250, it was my first bike too :) Actually its dry weight is listed as 130kg which is a lot less than any 750 modern or otherwise. it is also less than comparable Vespa 250, which comes in at 146 dry.

     

  • 05-18-2011 06:08 PM In reply to

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