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Where does the label "Maxi" begin ?

Last post 05-13-2014 08:35 PM by vortexau. 20 replies.
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  • 05-06-2014 08:53 PM

    Where does the label "Maxi" begin ?

    Does a scooter become a Maxi because it can carry two people ? Or is it determined by the engine size ? Or is it a matter of physical length ? Or something else ?

     Thanks, Brett.

  • 05-06-2014 10:19 PM In reply to

    Re: Where does the label "Maxi" begin ?

    If it smells like stale urin and mothballs and can fit a walking frame on it it somewhere. Then it might be a maxi! :-D

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  • 05-06-2014 10:44 PM In reply to

    Re: Where does the label "Maxi" begin ?

    lead runner:

    If it smells like stale urin and mothballs and can fit a walking frame on it it somewhere. Then it might be a maxi! :-D

    LOL Big SmileYes

     

    Si ‘Thi’ later
  • 05-07-2014 10:26 AM In reply to

    Re: Where does the label "Maxi" begin ?

    It begins where you want it to. I consider my 150 a Maxi, because I can take it on the freeway for a weekend away without a backpack. Admittedly, I'm packing light and slower than a caravan, but I can do it.

    The definition tends to kick in over a genuine 200cc.

     

    4 years and 20,000 K's later, I'm still scootering, and you guys are stuck with me!
  • 05-07-2014 05:27 PM In reply to

    Re: Where does the label "Maxi" begin ?

    Suzuki Burgman 125 ?

    Si ‘Thi’ later
  • 05-07-2014 06:40 PM In reply to

    Re: Where does the label "Maxi" begin ?

    Yamaha X-MAX125

    Si ‘Thi’ later
  • 05-07-2014 06:49 PM In reply to

    Re: Where does the label "Maxi" begin ?

    I'm sure there's a reason for those - but I can't think of one. That much weight and a 125cc engine...

    4 years and 20,000 K's later, I'm still scootering, and you guys are stuck with me!
  • 05-07-2014 07:57 PM In reply to

    Re: Where does the label "Maxi" begin ?

    Try European motorcycle licence laws Big Smile

    Si ‘Thi’ later
  • 05-08-2014 02:02 PM In reply to

    Re: Where does the label "Maxi" begin ?

     I used to think it related to larger capacity engines like Tmax/Burgers/BMW 650s.

    Then I went on to thinking it was about body size and carrying capacity, Burgers, Maxsym, X10 Piaggio.   But then something like the SRV850 is out cause the matchbox under the seat can barely fit an open faced helmet

    Too many variables to really nail it down to one specific category.  Perhaps overall weight???  Over 200kgs counts as maxi??  Would certainly make the most sense.

    I know I dont count my HD200 as a maxi as it's 140kgs. 

     

    Started out with a Zip 50. Now moving on to a HD 200. Wonder what's next....?? Not wondering any more.... TMAX!!!!!!
  • 05-08-2014 06:27 PM In reply to

    Re: Where does the label "Maxi" begin ?

    Wink Maybe we start using the terms Mini Midi & Maxi Stick out tongue

    Si ‘Thi’ later
  • 05-10-2014 06:16 PM In reply to

    • vortexau
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    Re: Where does the label "Maxi" begin ?

    Think old world motor scooters such as Vespa & Lambretta.  What were the larger engine sizes back in the 50-70s?

    "Vespas came in two sizes, referred to as "largeframe" and "smallframe". The smallframe scooters came in 50 cc, 90 cc, 100 cc, and 125 cc versions, all using an engine derived from the 50 cc model of 1963, and the largeframe scooters in 125 cc, 150 cc, 160 cc, 180 cc, and 200 cc displacements using engines derived from the redesigned 125 cc engine from the late 1950s.

    The largeframe Vespa evolved into the PX range in the late 1970s and was produced in 125, 150 and 200 cc versions until July 2007." (wikipedia-Vespa)

    "Like Vespas of the day, Lambrettas had three or four gears and two-stroke engines with capacities ranging from 49 cc to 198 cc. Most two-stroke engines require a mixture of oil with the gasoline in order to lubricate the piston and cylinder.

    Along with the Vespa, Lambretta was an iconic vehicle of the 1950s and 1960s when they became the adopted vehicle of choice for the UK youth-culture known as Mods. The character Jimmy from the influential scooter movie Quadrophenia rode a Lambretta Li 150 Series 3. Of the 1960s models, the TV (Turismo Veloce), the Special (125 and 150), the SX (Special X) and the GP (Grand Prix) are generally considered the most desirable due to their increased performance and refined look; the "matte black" fittings on the GP model are said to have influenced European car designs throughout the 1970s. These three models came with a front disc brake made by Campagnolo. The TV was the world's first production two-wheeled vehicle with a front disc brake."(wikipedia-Lambretta)

    It should be easy to see that 200cc generally was at the upper engine size, and athough other makes may have had larger engines, these two makes easilly outsold all others combined.

    The genesis of what is termed the Maxi-scooter is largely conceded to Japan; and Honda in particular:

    "

    Maxi-scooter

    A maxi-scooter[48] or touring scooter[49] is a large scooter, with engines ranging in size from 250 to 850 cc (15 to 52 cu in), and using larger frames than normal scooters.

    The trend toward maxi-scooters began in 1986 when Honda introduced the CN250 Helix / Fusion / Spazio.[citation needed] Many years later, Suzuki launched the Burgman 400 and 650 models.[50] Honda (600 cc or 37 cu in), Aprilia/Gilera (839 cc or 51.2 cu in), Yamaha (530 cc or 32 cu in), Kymco (700 cc or 43 cu in) and others have also introduced scooters with engine displacements ranging from 400 to 850 cc (24 to 52 cu in). Honda's PS250 (also known as Big Ruckus) features a motorcycle-like exoskeleton instead of bodywork."

     

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  • 05-10-2014 06:49 PM In reply to

    Re: Where does the label "Maxi" begin ?

    Any time I need to push my Fuoco it's definately a Maxi-Scooter, when I'm riding it, it's just a scooter.

    You're as bad as me, you used to be so much better, that makes you worse.

    Red Gilera Fuoco 500ie
  • 05-10-2014 06:57 PM In reply to

    • vortexau
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    What comes after the label "Maxi" ?

    The next step-up from just Maxi-Scooter if we consider 500cc as the upper size for Maxis . . . .

    May be termed Mega / Ultra / or (as Scooter Sales coined:)

    Mega-maxi.

    The FIRST mega-maxi, Suzuki’s behemoth Burgman. A 638 cc parallel-twin 54 horsepower and 45 foot-pounds of torque—   .

    Now of course we have Aprilia SRV 850 (839.3cc in a V-Twin and 76 horsepower), and the pair from BMW; C 600 Sport and C 650 GT, with 647cc parallel-twin [60 hp (45 kW) @ 7,500 rpm].

    __________________
    Marty McFly:
    Does it run like on, on regular unleaded gasoline?
    Dr. Emmett L. Brown:
    Unfortunately, no. It requires something with a little more kick . . . plutonium!
  • 05-10-2014 07:50 PM In reply to

    Re: What comes after the label "Maxi" ?

    Where will it end?? I parked my old Camry (1991) next to a new Corolla, and they WERE THE SAME SIZE!!!

    4 years and 20,000 K's later, I'm still scootering, and you guys are stuck with me!
  • 05-11-2014 09:10 AM In reply to

    Re: What comes after the label "Maxi" ?

    I already have a problem using the term "scooter" for a Burgman or a TMAX!

    Mike

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