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Bigger is not always better

Last post 05-12-2017 08:33 PM by chicaboo. 40 replies.
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  • 05-01-2017 05:35 PM In reply to

    Re: Bigger is not always better

     

     

     

     

  • 05-07-2017 07:07 PM In reply to

    • gaz
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    Re: Bigger is not always better

    I agree with tonyr!

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  • 05-07-2017 09:50 PM In reply to

    Re: Bigger is not always better

    gaz:

    I agree with tonyr!

    tonyr:

     

     

     

     

     

    Yep magic Yes ain't using explorer by any chance tonyr ? Sad

    Si ‘Thi’ later
  • 05-09-2017 11:55 PM In reply to

    • chicaboo
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    • Joined on 12-26-2015
    • Logan.qld.au
    • Posts 30

    Re: Bigger is not always better

    After I'm fed up with the PCX I wouldn't mind trying a larger scoot like the Downtown 350i.

    White 2012 Honda PCX 150:
    + Realize Blink s/s exhaust
    + Dr Pulley 11+13g sliders #SR2015
    + YSS G-Euro XL red shocks
    + 5W Cree projector position lights
    + Matte black meter panels
    - World Walk smoked long screen
    + Daytona reinforced CVT belt
    + PowerbyPCX Type1 carbon seat
    + K&N panel filter #HA-1213
    + MAX INC mirror extenders
    + MiniMoto 220mm Grom rotor
    - SSB 140CCA lithium battery #YTX5L-BS
    + White 14x1/2" rim stripes
    + WirusWin Hyper Valve PCV
    + NGK Iridium sparkplug #CPR7EAIX-9
    + Kitaco Digital Speedometer
    + Black adjustable brake levers
    + Kitaco Super Throttle Pipe
    + AEM Gauge-Type UEGO Controller #30-4100
    + CBR125R 31mm throttle body
    + CBR150R fuel injector #16450-KPP-T01
    + Yuminashi 31mm A-type intake manifold
    + Dobeck EJK Gen 3.5 #8110043
    + Yuminiashi big tube air intake
    + KN Planning Sports Clutch
    + Custom tarmac pinstriping...

    + Rothmans Honda livery
    + CM (Takegawa) 175cc Big Bore Kit
    + Yuminashi 62mm domed piston
    + Takegawa sports camshaft
    + Yuminashi 62mm 0.5mm copper gasket
  • 05-10-2017 08:32 PM In reply to

    Re: Bigger is not always better

    Chicaboo - and the rest of you guys and girls..... I stuffed up the edit - thus the blank page....

    Chicaboo - I am in the process of trading my 2016 Downtown 350i for the new Kymco X-town 300.

    I have enjoyed the 350i and consider it is the best yet of many, many scooters of the last 12-14 years. It has been flawless in all departments, and I can recommend it to anyone. After 9000+ kms it stills runs like on the day of delivery.

    Why am I changing?  I'm rather old and like to try new,new, new - (scooters that is....)

    So go for the Downtown 350i  Chicaboo - you won't be dissapointed.....

     

  • 05-10-2017 09:15 PM In reply to

    Re: Bigger is not always better

    Onya tonyr for being so adventureous ....

  • 05-10-2017 10:13 PM In reply to

    • chicaboo
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    • Logan.qld.au
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    Re: Bigger is not always better

    tonyr:

    Chicaboo - and the rest of you guys and girls..... I stuffed up the edit - thus the blank page....

    Chicaboo - I am in the process of trading my 2016 Downtown 350i for the new Kymco X-town 300.

    I have enjoyed the 350i and consider it is the best yet of many, many scooters of the last 12-14 years. It has been flawless in all departments, and I can recommend it to anyone. After 9000+ kms it stills runs like on the day of delivery.

    Why am I changing?  I'm rather old and like to try new,new, new - (scooters that is....)

    So go for the Downtown 350i  Chicaboo - you won't be dissapointed.....

     

    Hey Tony,

    I think I'd prefer the extra 5kW that the Downton 350i puts out since they more or less weigh the same.

    White 2012 Honda PCX 150:
    + Realize Blink s/s exhaust
    + Dr Pulley 11+13g sliders #SR2015
    + YSS G-Euro XL red shocks
    + 5W Cree projector position lights
    + Matte black meter panels
    - World Walk smoked long screen
    + Daytona reinforced CVT belt
    + PowerbyPCX Type1 carbon seat
    + K&N panel filter #HA-1213
    + MAX INC mirror extenders
    + MiniMoto 220mm Grom rotor
    - SSB 140CCA lithium battery #YTX5L-BS
    + White 14x1/2" rim stripes
    + WirusWin Hyper Valve PCV
    + NGK Iridium sparkplug #CPR7EAIX-9
    + Kitaco Digital Speedometer
    + Black adjustable brake levers
    + Kitaco Super Throttle Pipe
    + AEM Gauge-Type UEGO Controller #30-4100
    + CBR125R 31mm throttle body
    + CBR150R fuel injector #16450-KPP-T01
    + Yuminashi 31mm A-type intake manifold
    + Dobeck EJK Gen 3.5 #8110043
    + Yuminiashi big tube air intake
    + KN Planning Sports Clutch
    + Custom tarmac pinstriping...

    + Rothmans Honda livery
    + CM (Takegawa) 175cc Big Bore Kit
    + Yuminashi 62mm domed piston
    + Takegawa sports camshaft
    + Yuminashi 62mm 0.5mm copper gasket
  • 05-11-2017 01:11 PM In reply to

    • pja
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    • Joined on 10-17-2009
    • Batemans Bay, NSW
    • Posts 117

    Re: Bigger is not always better

    Gav,

    Nice to see you finally made it onto this forum!

    Welcome!

    Regards,
    Peter CoolYes 

    Peter Anderson & Co.

    "HE HAD offices in Sydney, not so many years ago,
    And his shingle bore the legend 'Peter Anderson and Co.',
    But his real name was Careless, as the fellows understood-
    And his relatives decided that he wasn't any good."
    Henry Lawson, August, 1895
  • 05-11-2017 02:02 PM In reply to

    • chicaboo
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    Re: Bigger is not always better

    pja:

    Gav,

    Nice to see you finally made it onto this forum!

    Welcome!

    Regards,
    Peter CoolYes 

    Only thanks to you Mr Anderson! Yes

    White 2012 Honda PCX 150:
    + Realize Blink s/s exhaust
    + Dr Pulley 11+13g sliders #SR2015
    + YSS G-Euro XL red shocks
    + 5W Cree projector position lights
    + Matte black meter panels
    - World Walk smoked long screen
    + Daytona reinforced CVT belt
    + PowerbyPCX Type1 carbon seat
    + K&N panel filter #HA-1213
    + MAX INC mirror extenders
    + MiniMoto 220mm Grom rotor
    - SSB 140CCA lithium battery #YTX5L-BS
    + White 14x1/2" rim stripes
    + WirusWin Hyper Valve PCV
    + NGK Iridium sparkplug #CPR7EAIX-9
    + Kitaco Digital Speedometer
    + Black adjustable brake levers
    + Kitaco Super Throttle Pipe
    + AEM Gauge-Type UEGO Controller #30-4100
    + CBR125R 31mm throttle body
    + CBR150R fuel injector #16450-KPP-T01
    + Yuminashi 31mm A-type intake manifold
    + Dobeck EJK Gen 3.5 #8110043
    + Yuminiashi big tube air intake
    + KN Planning Sports Clutch
    + Custom tarmac pinstriping...

    + Rothmans Honda livery
    + CM (Takegawa) 175cc Big Bore Kit
    + Yuminashi 62mm domed piston
    + Takegawa sports camshaft
    + Yuminashi 62mm 0.5mm copper gasket
  • 05-11-2017 04:32 PM In reply to

    • Bilbo
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    • Joined on 12-20-2013
    • Morisset, NSW
    • Posts 14

    Re: Bigger is not always better

    I can only agree about the quality/value of the Downtown. I made the mistake of taking one for a test ride when I had my Xevo400 in for a service and was sold on the whole package. Tried a Beverly 350 at the same time and could not see $2000 more in it over the Kymco product; and the Downtown looked better in my opinion.

    After 700 km on my brand new Downtown, my thoughts have only been strengthened! It is smoother around town and has the same pick up on the freeway. It is more nimble, being a little smaller than the Xevo physically and has the same performance. As the motor and suspension free up, it keeps getting better. I look for any excuse to take the bike out for a run and cannot keep the smile off my dial.

    My local dealer has the new Xcity and they look pretty good as well. At $2000 less than the Downtown, it would be a tough choice for those who were more city bound. As a country dweller, the extra horses in the Downtown win me out. Supply of the Downtown is short at the moment, obviously the word is starting to spread about the value provided and the word is that the price will rise in the near future

    Good riding!

    Bilbo

    KYMCO Downtown 350
    Piaggio XEvo
    Vespa 200GT
  • 05-11-2017 05:32 PM In reply to

    • chicaboo
    • Top 500 Contributor
    • Joined on 12-26-2015
    • Logan.qld.au
    • Posts 30

    Re: Bigger is not always better

    Bilbo:

    I can only agree about the quality/value of the Downtown. I made the mistake of taking one for a test ride when I had my Xevo400 in for a service and was sold on the whole package. Tried a Beverly 350 at the same time and could not see $2000 more in it over the Kymco product; and the Downtown looked better in my opinion.

    After 700 km on my brand new Downtown, my thoughts have only been strengthened! It is smoother around town and has the same pick up on the freeway. It is more nimble, being a little smaller than the Xevo physically and has the same performance. As the motor and suspension free up, it keeps getting better. I look for any excuse to take the bike out for a run and cannot keep the smile off my dial.

    My local dealer has the new Xcity and they look pretty good as well. At $2000 less than the Downtown, it would be a tough choice for those who were more city bound. As a country dweller, the extra horses in the Downtown win me out. Supply of the Downtown is short at the moment, obviously the word is starting to spread about the value provided and the word is that the price will rise in the near future

    Good riding!

    The BV350 has a firecracker of a motor, but unfortunately it has limited leg positioning opportunities and feminine styling...

    The X-Town 300 looks quite nice, but I think the low power compared to the Downtown 350i would play on my mind.

    Somehow the X-Town manages to make less power than an Honda Forza, but then I'm too big for the Forza in any case. Embarrassed

    But if it comes in at $2000 less than the Downtown 350i, that certainly does give some room for consideration on a budget!

    White 2012 Honda PCX 150:
    + Realize Blink s/s exhaust
    + Dr Pulley 11+13g sliders #SR2015
    + YSS G-Euro XL red shocks
    + 5W Cree projector position lights
    + Matte black meter panels
    - World Walk smoked long screen
    + Daytona reinforced CVT belt
    + PowerbyPCX Type1 carbon seat
    + K&N panel filter #HA-1213
    + MAX INC mirror extenders
    + MiniMoto 220mm Grom rotor
    - SSB 140CCA lithium battery #YTX5L-BS
    + White 14x1/2" rim stripes
    + WirusWin Hyper Valve PCV
    + NGK Iridium sparkplug #CPR7EAIX-9
    + Kitaco Digital Speedometer
    + Black adjustable brake levers
    + Kitaco Super Throttle Pipe
    + AEM Gauge-Type UEGO Controller #30-4100
    + CBR125R 31mm throttle body
    + CBR150R fuel injector #16450-KPP-T01
    + Yuminashi 31mm A-type intake manifold
    + Dobeck EJK Gen 3.5 #8110043
    + Yuminiashi big tube air intake
    + KN Planning Sports Clutch
    + Custom tarmac pinstriping...

    + Rothmans Honda livery
    + CM (Takegawa) 175cc Big Bore Kit
    + Yuminashi 62mm domed piston
    + Takegawa sports camshaft
    + Yuminashi 62mm 0.5mm copper gasket
  • 05-11-2017 07:04 PM In reply to

    Re: Bigger is not always better

    Chicaboo - I agree with what you are saying about the power-to-weight advantage of the 350i and that must be part of the decision making information. However, for an old bloke like me who uses a scooter to meander around the Adelaide hills taking in views on a stop/start basis my criteria encompasses "sufficient' power and the X-City will do that for me (I think - hope). I have reminded myself of my experience with the Qasar-powered Piaggion MP3 tourer that I owned. It weighed much more that the X-City (around 50kgs more) and had the same output as the X-City (about 22-23hp) - sufficient power for my needs. Now for the contradiction - I regret not buying the Gilera 500 version!

    I find these days that there are only two really important criteria that can sway me one way or the other:- 1. Is the bike of decent quality, styling and performance that it does the job well and 2. It is paramount to be buying from a dealer I can trust to do the right thing by both me and the product. I have that at present and will not stray to brands that that dealer doesn't sell however good they may be.

    PS   I still miss my Lambretta 150 (circa 1957) - abused to buggery - and it came back for more!

  • 05-11-2017 07:26 PM In reply to

    • chicaboo
    • Top 500 Contributor
    • Joined on 12-26-2015
    • Logan.qld.au
    • Posts 30

    Re: Bigger is not always better

    My late father was riding a Fuoco 500 in his last years. That was one big, heavy, ugly, and intimidating scooter! Surprise

    I think the biggest scooter I'd be willing to wrestle is a used Tmax 530, which unfortunately only comes in black...

    But the reality is I'm only prepared to pay up to around $7k for a scooter, and Kymco gives you more for your money.

    White 2012 Honda PCX 150:
    + Realize Blink s/s exhaust
    + Dr Pulley 11+13g sliders #SR2015
    + YSS G-Euro XL red shocks
    + 5W Cree projector position lights
    + Matte black meter panels
    - World Walk smoked long screen
    + Daytona reinforced CVT belt
    + PowerbyPCX Type1 carbon seat
    + K&N panel filter #HA-1213
    + MAX INC mirror extenders
    + MiniMoto 220mm Grom rotor
    - SSB 140CCA lithium battery #YTX5L-BS
    + White 14x1/2" rim stripes
    + WirusWin Hyper Valve PCV
    + NGK Iridium sparkplug #CPR7EAIX-9
    + Kitaco Digital Speedometer
    + Black adjustable brake levers
    + Kitaco Super Throttle Pipe
    + AEM Gauge-Type UEGO Controller #30-4100
    + CBR125R 31mm throttle body
    + CBR150R fuel injector #16450-KPP-T01
    + Yuminashi 31mm A-type intake manifold
    + Dobeck EJK Gen 3.5 #8110043
    + Yuminiashi big tube air intake
    + KN Planning Sports Clutch
    + Custom tarmac pinstriping...

    + Rothmans Honda livery
    + CM (Takegawa) 175cc Big Bore Kit
    + Yuminashi 62mm domed piston
    + Takegawa sports camshaft
    + Yuminashi 62mm 0.5mm copper gasket
  • 05-11-2017 08:37 PM In reply to

    Re: Bigger is not always better

    What are the service intervals now with the Kymco's ?

    Si ‘Thi’ later
  • 05-11-2017 09:01 PM In reply to

    • chicaboo
    • Top 500 Contributor
    • Joined on 12-26-2015
    • Logan.qld.au
    • Posts 30

    Re: Bigger is not always better

    pyrah:

    What are the service intervals now with the Kymco's ?

    I don't know, but you have to adhere to them at authorised service centres if you want that 3 year warranty*. Otherwise you only get a 2 year warranty.

    White 2012 Honda PCX 150:
    + Realize Blink s/s exhaust
    + Dr Pulley 11+13g sliders #SR2015
    + YSS G-Euro XL red shocks
    + 5W Cree projector position lights
    + Matte black meter panels
    - World Walk smoked long screen
    + Daytona reinforced CVT belt
    + PowerbyPCX Type1 carbon seat
    + K&N panel filter #HA-1213
    + MAX INC mirror extenders
    + MiniMoto 220mm Grom rotor
    - SSB 140CCA lithium battery #YTX5L-BS
    + White 14x1/2" rim stripes
    + WirusWin Hyper Valve PCV
    + NGK Iridium sparkplug #CPR7EAIX-9
    + Kitaco Digital Speedometer
    + Black adjustable brake levers
    + Kitaco Super Throttle Pipe
    + AEM Gauge-Type UEGO Controller #30-4100
    + CBR125R 31mm throttle body
    + CBR150R fuel injector #16450-KPP-T01
    + Yuminashi 31mm A-type intake manifold
    + Dobeck EJK Gen 3.5 #8110043
    + Yuminiashi big tube air intake
    + KN Planning Sports Clutch
    + Custom tarmac pinstriping...

    + Rothmans Honda livery
    + CM (Takegawa) 175cc Big Bore Kit
    + Yuminashi 62mm domed piston
    + Takegawa sports camshaft
    + Yuminashi 62mm 0.5mm copper gasket
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