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Last post 05-11-2017 02:07 PM by chicaboo. 12 replies.
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  • 05-02-2017 04:49 PM

    • Zerotech
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    Mirrors, do you use them?

    For 2 years of scooter riding, I have found that whilst riding I cannot seem to use my mirrors at all due to the riding position that I am more shifting my body towards the front. This is a bit of a problem for me since I would have to look really down to use my mirrors but everytime I do I cannot seem to get the right angle to look at the mirrors at all so now I rely on headchecks for switching lanes.

    The only time I ever use the mirrors now is when I am stationary looking at the vehicles coming from behind, other than that I cannot seem to use mirrors anymore as my riding position is leaned more to the front.

    No matter how I adjust my mirrors I just cannot seem to use it whilst in motion, I know this is what people should use in case a headcheck is not possible to do due to limited time.

    Do you recommend that I sit back further to use the mirrors or it's better that your body is closer to the handle bars that braking and swerving is a lot easier to do when you are closer to the handle bars.

     

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  • 05-02-2017 05:32 PM In reply to

    Re: Mirrors, do you use them?

    Get some new mirrors with different stems on them 

    Image result for long stem motorcycle mirrors

  • 05-02-2017 06:52 PM In reply to

    • gaz
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    Re: Mirrors, do you use them?

    I use the mirrors but always headcheck especially when changing lanes.

  • 05-03-2017 04:20 PM In reply to

    Re: Mirrors, do you use them?

    I use my mirrors all the time to check what is behind me and what about to overtake. But when I am going to change lanes I headcheck my blind spots too. You need to get some mirrors to suit your body size/riding position.

    Mike

  • 05-03-2017 05:40 PM In reply to

    • Zerotech
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    Re: Mirrors, do you use them?

    The only problem I have with my riding position is that my body is leaned too far forward that my body is almost adjacent to the handle bars, which makes me looking at the mirrors in the most awkward position.

    It doesn't help either for me being a short person that my arms are not long enough to sit far back to use the mirrors.

    Having longer or wider mirrors would not make a difference either since I sit too close to the mirrors to even use them.

    So I a way my riding position is more like monkey wrenching, that sitting too close to the handle bars is the most agressive position to ride, also the motorcycle instructors told me to sit as close to the handle bars as possible.

    The advantage I find when i sit too close to the handle bars is that I can control the steering and braking a lot better, but at a cost of not being able to use the mirrors at all.

    The scooter I got is a 2012 Piaggio Fly 150 but it's build and shape quality was meant for taller riders, since I am about 5"8 I struggle to lean back to ride straight so in a way I am forced to sit closer so I can get a better grip to handle the scooter better.

    Unfortauntely this seem to be a problem with short riders more than average or tall riders in general.

     

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  • 05-04-2017 12:46 PM In reply to

    Re: Mirrors, do you use them?

    Sorry but i'm 5"4 and don't have a problem with seat position and looking through my mirrors perhaps you need to see a new instructor to advise on your riding position

  • 05-04-2017 09:06 PM In reply to

    • Zerotech
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    Re: Mirrors, do you use them?

    I have looked up briefly about short arm conditions, to find out if you have normal arm length, measure your height and your arm length. The arm length should be 1 or 2 inches taller than your height.

    If I am 5"8 INches in height and I have measured my arms to be approx 162cm of 5"4 inches so really my arm length is actually shorter than my height.

    For you being 5"4 you would have no problems sitting in normal position because your arms are equivalent to your height but my arms are at least 4 inches shorter than my height and looks like the reason for me to sit too close to the handlebars is that I have to concede that I have short arms which makes me trying to ride in a normal position awkward so in a way I am forced to sit closer to the handlebars as a result of having short arms.

    Why cannot I improve on my skills just because of my silly name?

    Zerotech
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  • 05-05-2017 12:00 AM In reply to

    Re: Mirrors, do you use them?

    Thats a bugger me i would be tempted to get some cheap long stem mirrors . Mount the stem facing forwards of handlebars . Then say 4 inch or so in front of handlebars . Put a 90 degree bend in the stem . So the mirror is facing to the rear again . Or look for extension brackets (or make some though if you need a left and right thread could be a problem) that will mount original mirrors 4 inch or so in front of handlebars

  • 05-05-2017 10:11 AM In reply to

    • Zerotech
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    Re: Mirrors, do you use them?

    I have posted in whrilpool as well and they too recommend me getting extension mounts as well. That will help me use my mirrors but I will have to check with state road laws to determine about whether its legal or not to use them.

    Why cannot I improve on my skills just because of my silly name?

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  • 05-05-2017 07:24 PM In reply to

    • INMA
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    Re: Mirrors, do you use them?

    There are two adjustments on standard mirrors.

    The base near the handles can be loosened by the locknut and the stems can be rotated forward and back to get a suitable position forward.

    The head of the mirror gimbals to give the rider angle adjustment left and right and up and down.

    In a normal upright riding position, your arms should be forward with your elbows bent. You should be able to adjust the mirrors to allow you to view past the elbows and see vehicles behind.

    If you can't adjust the mirrors yourself, go to a motorcycle workshop and get help. If you bought from a dealer they should help for free.

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  • 05-11-2017 12:06 PM In reply to

    • Zerotech
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    Re: Mirrors, do you use them?

    INMA:
    n a normal upright riding position, your arms should be forward with your elbows bent. You should be able to adjust the mirrors to allow you to view past the elbows and see vehicles behind.

    That is true but the direction of the bent arms matters, you would want to bend your arms pointing upwards, the problem for me currently are my arms are bending downwards which is not a natural position.

    UPDATE: I have gotten a new pair of mirrors now, they are fully adjustable and I think I have got the right level of adjustments that I need since I can also bend the mirror frame to move forwards. It looks like I cannot use the OEM Mirrors as they are not fully adjustable.

    I bought the mirrors here on ebay for $20 - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/310711616893?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

     

    Why cannot I improve on my skills just because of my silly name?

    Zerotech
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  • 05-11-2017 12:18 PM In reply to

    Re: Mirrors, do you use them?

    Big SmileYes

  • 05-11-2017 02:07 PM In reply to

    • chicaboo
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    Re: Mirrors, do you use them?

    I'm 6'2" and just over 2' across the shoulders, so stock mirrors are useless to me unless I use extenders.

    In which case I go from seeing a 1/4 of the mirror's view to about 3/4, which is enough for me to feel safe.

    In addition to headchecking, I like big goofy stock mirrors. I can't deal with trendy little bar-end mirros or such.

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