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Last post 11-14-2008 07:46 AM by Peter. 15 replies.
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  • 11-13-2008 01:00 PM

    • Peter
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    riding in the wet

    Hi Folks , long time lurker here, My name is Peter, I am in Brisbane, I ride a  Vespa GTS 250 ,I've had the scoot since Feb 2008

    I'm looking for some recomendations on what type of  tyre would be best for my Vespa GTS 250.

    I have the original Sava's on there at the moment {4500 km} I'm still a couple of mm from the wear indicator and the tyres have been OK for what I do,

    just not in the wet.

     I went to my dealer and he said that they were the best  tyres that were made for that scoot {and as luck would have it , he has some right here}. 

    I've decided that I wont but another set of Sava's, so I thought that I would throw the question out there. which ones to get ??

    I know I started with the wet weather question but that is not necessarily  the major factor {Just at the forfront of my mind after todays ride to work}

    I'm not too worried about tyre wear, more about grip  and stability. so thanks in advance for any help.

    PS. love the site, spend way too much time online here when I should be working..

     

    Cheers Peter.

     

  • 11-13-2008 01:03 PM In reply to

    • Dakoda
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    Re: riding in the wet

    Which part of Brisbane are you from?  We are always looking for more people to joion our rides.

    I dont know if there is a perfect wet tyre.  I know I and many others find the Conti twists very good in all climates.  It would just mean fininding the right size for your tyre.

    I am assuming you have a dealer in the city.

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  • 11-13-2008 01:23 PM In reply to

    Re: riding in the wet

    For something like the GTS Michelin Pilot Sport, Continental Twist & we've just added Schwalbe to our range they have a soft wet weather pattern tyre called a powertrack or the performance Raceman. I've used both of these on the track - very good tyre.

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  • 11-13-2008 01:23 PM In reply to

    • Lucy
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    Re: riding in the wet

    Hi Peter,

    Can relate to your enquiry, I had the same questions myself earlier in the year.  I have had my Vespa GTS250 for quite a while now and always felt stable and secure on the original tyres in the dry and wet.  Back tyre got replaced first, then the front, after the front was replaced I noticed the difference in the wet and thought it wasn't quite as grippy and stable as the previous tyre.  Then you start to doubt yourself and think your crazy.  Anyway I asked the question on this forum and had the advice Metzler or Sava are the best for the Vespa. We are due for tyre change soon and I will be putting either one of these brands back on now I know a bit more about it.

     

     

  • 11-13-2008 01:38 PM In reply to

    • Peter
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    Re: riding in the wet

    Hi Dakoda, that was Quick,

    I'm from Everton Park . in Brisbane. Ive read about the Group rides ,They look like a lot of fun,

    would love to show up for one sometime.

    Ive looked at the Conti twists and they are actually my prefered choice at the moment.

    I'm getting them for myself for Christmas {from my wife}she dosen't know yet.

    Hi Brendan , thanks for that, I hope to be on the coast the week after next so I will come and introduce  myself ,

     Hi Lucy ,Thanks for your thoughts, I did have some doubt about the tyres this morning when I went sideways through a round about at Bardon, very slow  for the rest of the trip.

     Cheers.

     

     

  • 11-13-2008 01:58 PM In reply to

    • Peter
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    Re: riding in the wet

    Hi Brendan, Just had a look at those Raceman and powertrack tyres , they look the goods, do you have them in stock ,and if so How much?

     Looking at getting front and back , and was also wondering about the merits of going 140 /70/12 for the rear and 130/70/12 front, yes/no??{mainly for looks}

    Cheers. Peter

  • 11-13-2008 02:10 PM In reply to

    Re: riding in the wet

    Peter:

    Hi Brendan, Just had a look at those Raceman and powertrack tyres , they look the goods, do you have them in stock ,and if so How much?

     Looking at getting front and back , and was also wondering about the merits of going 140 /70/12 for the rear and 130/70/12 front, yes/no??{mainly for looks}

    Cheers. Peter

    I think they also do a full wet tyre as well ( but they are the best available in Aus)
  • 11-13-2008 02:22 PM In reply to

    Re: riding in the wet

    Should have kept the Schwalbe under wraps til we were completely stocked & ready. Haven't even got them up on our site yet. At the moment its the common sizes only I have the front but no rear, not a problem we can get them in. PM me for pricing (gives me time to find it)

    Some will be wondering why the shift to Schwalbe as we have been vocal supporters of the Conti Range. We still are, but since Continental moved production from Thailand to Vietnam we had a few issues with out of round tyres & balancing, then there is the new pricing. We always keep our eye on the latest developments & products if you don't opportunity passes you by... 

     

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  • 11-13-2008 02:33 PM In reply to

    Re: riding in the wet

    Service@SelectScootas:
    I think they also do a full wet tyre as well ( but they are the best available in Aus)

    Weatherman - cold climate tyre. The powertrack would be as soft as you went in Qld - these are brilliant in the wet, done a heaps of K's on them. Personally I think the raceman would be the best bet for most riders as the smaller contact patch on the weatherman & powertrack hold a fair bit of heat & tend to wear out a little faster than desired if its dry. They are a wet weather tyre after all.

    Trying to see if I can get the "power slick" too.Devil

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  • 11-13-2008 02:54 PM In reply to

    • Dakoda
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    Re: riding in the wet

    Peter:

    Hi Dakoda, that was Quick,

    I'm from Everton Park . in Brisbane. Ive read about the Group rides ,They look like a lot of fun,

    would love to show up for one sometime.

     

     

    I guess we could accomodate a Vespa on our rides.

    Keep an eye out, as we have them quite often, and aprox every 6 weeks from Scooter HQ in Southport, and there is usually at least one who makes the trek from Brisbane.

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  • 11-13-2008 03:59 PM In reply to

    • Tubsta
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    Re: riding in the wet

    Peter:
    wondering about the merits of going 140 /70/12 for the rear and 130/70/12 front, yes/no??
     

    Hi Peter,

    A big no on that one.  It may look the goods but what is the point when it becomes a pain to ride, no point in just looking at it parked in the shed.

    Piaggio used that tyre size for a reason, a decision made by some very intelligent engineers.  I am a bit of a tweeker with my stuff, will play around with different compounds, but will leave the tyre size original.  I have played with sizes in the past and the experience was no where near as good to ride even though it looked fatter.

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    Gone: Piaggio MP3 400ie, too unreliable in the rain (think Italian electrics).

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  • 11-13-2008 04:04 PM In reply to

    Re: riding in the wet

    Scooter HQ:

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    Trying to see if I can get the "power slick" too.Devil

      He has got some (i'm running a set on the super retard pit bike) and they stick like s**t to a bunny rabbit
  • 11-13-2008 04:06 PM In reply to

    Re: riding in the wet

    Tubsta:
    I have played with sizes in the past and the experience was no where near as good to ride even though it looked fatter.

    Spot on Tubsta, the wider the tyre the slower it turns, Manufacturers have sizes for a reason. There has only been one or two scooters we have used a different size on, but that was for a specific reason.

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  • 11-13-2008 08:08 PM In reply to

    • Linz
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    Re: riding in the wet

    Peter:

    I have the original Sava's on there at the moment {4500 km} I'm still a couple of mm from the wear indicator and the tyres have been OK for what I do,

    just not in the wet.

    Cheers Peter.

     

    Hhhmmmm...weird..my GTS came with Pirelli GTS23/24(?) tyres.....or is that(Sava's) a nick name for them??

    Don't look at WHO started it up, look at WHAT has been started up.....
  • 11-13-2008 11:08 PM In reply to

    • petegailey
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    Re: riding in the wet

    Linz:

     

    Hhhmmmm...weird..my GTS came with Pirelli GTS23/24(?) tyres.....or is that(Sava's) a nick name for them??

    My GTS came with Sava's
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