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Last post 07-13-2017 08:42 PM by INMA. 3 replies.
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  • 07-12-2017 07:42 PM

    E-10 - again.

    Not that I use the stuff myself, but it occured to me recently that scooter and M/C manufacturers don't seem to have embraced E-10 as an alternative fuel at all. Otherwise, why do I not see "E-10 approved" stickers on bikes. Don't get me wrong - at a saving of only 2c a litre it hardly seems bothering to use it anyway. Among many motor organisations the pros and cons of the fuel has been discussed for quite some time but.....

    It would seem  that as an alternative fuel E-10 is a "non-event" for lovers of 2 wheel transport.

    What do you think ?

  • 07-12-2017 08:13 PM In reply to

    Re: E-10 - again.

    If you look in handbooks such as Honda Yamaha most new models they will say that E10 is acceptable on the list below no Hmm . But as it is less efficient needs to be around at least 3% cheaper than ULP to save money at the pump . Then there is negatives off E10 discussed on this forum before to not recommend using it

    Angry this site search engine not working to bring some discussion up with out the search facility this site is virtually useless and i think it's nearly time to hang my boots up

    Here is an old list of what will run on E10 click

    Image result for E10 fuel cartoon

     

     

    Si ‘Thi’ later
  • 07-12-2017 09:03 PM In reply to

    Re: E-10 - again.

     

     

     From Honda Forza 300 handbook Fuels Containing Alcohol

    Information

    Fuels Containing Alcohol

    Some conventional fuels blended with alcohol are available in some locales to help reduce emissions to meet clean air standards. If you plan to use blended fuel, check that it is unleaded and meets the minimum octane rating requirement.

    The following fuel blends can be used in your scooter:

    ●Petrol containing ethanol (ethyl alcohol) up to 10% by volume.

    uPetrol containing ethanol may be marketed under the name Gasohol.

    The use of petrol containing more than 10% ethanol may:

    ●Damage the painting of the fuel tank.

    ●Damage the rubber tubes of the fuel line.

    ●Cause corrosion of the fuel tank.

    ●Cause poor drivability.

    If you notice any undesirable operating symptoms or performance problems, try a different brand of petrol.

    NOTICE

    Use of blended fuels containing higher than approved percentages can damage metal, rubber, plastic parts of your fuel system.

    Si ‘Thi’ later
  • 07-13-2017 08:42 PM In reply to

    • INMA
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    Re: E-10 - again.

    E10 has never been proven to reduce carbon emmisions. Ethanol is a low carbon fuel but the industry has never accounted for electricity used in irrigation or diesel used in farming or transport. Add these to the carbon calculation and any benifits of this subsidised fuel are questionable.

    Then there is the aldehydes in the exhaust which cause cancer.

    Ethanol is cheap to make from natural gas so if it is ever commercialised, expect the natural gas suppliers overseas to fload the market with cheap hydrocarbon produced ethanol.

    None of this is new information, the facts above were well discussed in the early 1990s.

    The truth is out there.

    2001 Yamaha Zuma, DR Evo 68 cylinder, Leo Vince TT derestricted, Delorto 17.5 (#98 jet), standard aircleaner, RMS fan, Race CDI, Standard oiler and premix @ 75:1 Shell SX2, Doppler SR3 variator, RMS clutch, RMS R rear shock absorber and Pirelli SL26 tyres.
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